55 year-old Randy Markin from Arcata (shown in the photo) was reported missing last Friday, Oct 24, 2014. Markin, who is diabetic, may be in need of his medication and therefore considered an at-risk missing person. Markin was last seen at his residence at about 1:00 am last Friday.
Randy Markin wears glasses and is described as: a white male adult 6' 3", 230 lbs. with long grey hair and brown eyes. He was last seen wearing a tie-dye T-shirt, long leather jacket, and jeans. Anybody with information about the whereabouts of Randy Markin is urged to contact the Arcata Police Department at: (707) 822-2428. The APD press release appears below.
Arcata Police Department press release, dated 10/25/14:
On 10/24/14 at about 3:00 PM, the Arcata Police Department received a missing person report on Randy Markin, 55 years old from Arcata. Markin was last seen at his residence on 10/24/14 at about 1:00 AM. An additional witness who is an acquaintance of Markin believes he saw him at ITF in Arcata on 10/24/14 between 2:00 PM and 3:00 PM.
Randy Markin is a white male adult 6 feet 3 inches tall and about 230 pounds with long grey hair and brown eyes. He was last seen wearing a tie-dye T-shirt, long leather jacket, and jeans. Markin also wears glasses. Markin is diabetic and may be in need of his medication and left his cell phone and wallet at home. He uses an electric wheelchair, which he is not currently in possession of.
APD officers have conducted an extensive search of the surrounding area and could not locate Markin. Officers talked to neighbors and local businesses who had not seen Markin.
Anybody with information or who sees Markin is urged to contact APD.
Update: 10/29/14- Missing hunter, 59 year old Dave Stornetta, was found yesterday, Tues., Oct 28, by a search helicopter. Stornetta, an experienced outdoorsman, was located in good health and not in need of medical attention after surviving seven days, which included rain and low temperatures, in the Yolla Bolly-Middle Eel Wilderness in southeastern Trinity County where he was deer hunting. The Trinity County Sheriff’s Office press release announcing the rescue appears below as does the original post on this story.
TCSO press release, dated Oct. 29, 2014:
On October 28, 2014 at approximately 5:00pm the Trinity County Sheriff’s Office was contacted by Dave Stornetta’s wife and advised the Sheriff’s Office that the family had located Mr. Stornetta via helicopter. Mr. Stornetta appeared to be in good health and did not appear to need medical attention. Dave Stornetta requested that the helicopter transport him back to the family’s hunting camp. Investigators will be contacting Mr. Stornetta once he returns to his residence regarding his location and movement while he was missing. The Sheriff’s Office is awaiting official confirmation of the exact location of where he was located.
For more details from the Press Democrat click here.
Dave Stornetta (shown in the photo) , a 59 year-old experienced hunter, was reported as missing Wed., Oct. 22, 2014, after he failed to show at a planned meet-up with his son. Stornetta was last seen that Wed. at around 7 am and was hunting in an area of Southern Trinity near the Mendocino County line, described as east of Covelo, where the search for him is currently in progress.
Stornetta is described as: a white male, 5'9" weighing 180 lbs. with brown hair and hazel colored eyes. He was wearing a black baseball cap, green sweat shirt, camo pants and "Redwing" boots. When last seen he was accompanied by a white and liver colored McNabb breed dog with a red collar.
Anyone with information about this missing hunter is asked to call the Trinity County Sheriff's Department at: (530) 623-2611.
Update: Oct. 24, 2014: Brian McSilvers, one of the two inmates who walked away from a S.W.A.P. (Sheriff's Work Alternative Program) work crew on Oct. 14, was arrested without incident after being spotted by a Eureka Police Department Detective walking near 2nd and Q Streets in Eureka. The original post on this incident and photos of the missing inmates appear below.
Inmates assigned to a crew working behind Les Schwab Tires in Eureka walked away while clearing brush in a heavily wooded area. Brian Strehl McSilvers, 36 years old, and James Lawrence Henry Jr., 35, both being held on probation violation charges are being sought by law enforcement and if caught will face additional charges. Photos of the escaped inmates appear below.
Brian Strehl McSilvers is described as a white male, 150 lbs., short blond hair and hazel eyes. He was last seen wearing a blue denim shirt with a white tee- shirt underneath, blue denim pants and work boots. James Lawrence Henry Jr. is 5’ 10” tall, hazel eyes, brown hair and weighs 165 lbs.
Anyone with information for the Sheriff’s Office regarding this case or related criminal activity is encouraged to call the Sheriff’s Office at 707-445-7251 or the Sheriff’s Office Crime Tip line at 707-268-2539. The full Humboldt County Sheriff's Office press release appears below.
HCSO press release, dated 10/16/14:
On 10-14-2014, at approximately 10:30 a.m. two inmates, assigned to an inmate work crew, walked away from a job site they were at behind Les Schwab Tires, Eureka. A Humboldt County Sheriff’s Office Correctional Officer was supervising the inmates who were clearing brush in a heavily wooded area. The Correctional Officer took a head count and noticed two inmates were missing. The Correctional Officer searched the immediate area for the missing inmates with no success. Eureka Police was notified and responded to assist with the search for the inmates who are now facing additional charges.
The inmates are identified as:
1. Brian Strehl McSilvers, 36 years old, White male, 150 lbs, short blond hair, hazel eyes. He was last seen wearing a blue denim shirt with a white t shirt underneath, blue denim pants and work boots. He was being held on a probation violation and was scheduled to be released on
2. James Lawrence Henry Jr. 35 years old, 5’ 10” tall, hazel eyes, brown hair, 165lbs, bald.
He was last seen wearing a blue denim shirt with a white t shirt underneath, blue denim pants and work boots. He was being held on a probation violation and was scheduled to be released on
Both inmates are from Eureka. Henry is also known to frequent the Fortuna area.
Anyone with information for the Sheriffs Office regarding this case or related criminal activity is encouraged to call the Sheriffs Office at 707-445-7251 or the Sheriffs Office Crime Tip line at 707-268-2539.
Missing inmates: James Henry (top); Brian McSilvers (bottom)
Update, Sept. 23, 2014: According to the Mendocino Sheriff's Facebook page jail escapee, Brett Edward Harlan, (shown in photo) has been captured. The original post on this story appears below.
Law enforcement in Mendocino is looking for escaped jail inmate, 56-year old Brett Edward Harlan, (shown in the photo). According to a Mendocino County Sheriff's Office press release, Harlan was released from jail on a 4-hour pass to visit a sick relative and did not return by the expiration of the pass. Harlan is believed to be hiding in the areas of Willits or Redwood Valley and should be considered dangerous.
According to KMUD News Facebook, Harlan had been in custody in the Mendocino County Jail on the following charges from 09-04-2014: 10851(a) CVC - Theft of a motor vehicle, 273.6(a) PC - Violation of a court order, 2800.2(a) CVC - Evading a peace officer, 245(c) PC - Assault on a peace officer, 11377(a) HS - Possession of a controlled substance, and 1203.2 PC - Violation of probation."
Harlan is described as 6-feet tall, weighs 220 pounds and has a shaved head and a tattoo that reads “Shirley,” across his upper chest. Harlan also has a tattoo on the right side of the neck below the ear, a tattoo on back of his head and has a prosthetic right leg. Anyone with information on the whereabouts of Harlan is urged to call 9-1-1 or the Mendocino County Sheriff's Office dispatch center at 707-463-4086. The full press release appears below.
MCSO press release, dated Sept. 18, 2014:
On 09-16-2014 at approximately 7:00 PM Deputies from the Mendocino County Sheriff's Office were dispatched to contacted Mendocino County Jail staff regarding the escape of an inmate.
When Deputies arrived Jail staff advised that on 09-16-2014 the inmate, Brett Edward Harlan, was taken to the Mendocino County Superior Court to petition for a temporary 4-hour release pass, so he could visit a sick relative.
The pass was granted and Harlan was released, but he was ordered to return to the Mendocino County Jail on 09-16-2014 at 4:00 PM.
Harlan subsequently did not return by the listed date/time to surrender himself to Mendocino County Jail staff and he is now considered an Escaped Inmate.
Deputies learned Harlan informed family members after his release that he would not go back to jail or surrender himself as had been previously ordered by the court.
Deputies continued their searched for Harlan and followed up on leads but they could not locate him as hoped.
Harlan is believed to be hiding in the areas of Willits or Redwood Valley and should be considered dangerous.
Anyone with information on the whereabouts of Harlan is urged to call 9-1-1 or the Mendocino County Sheriff's Office dispatch center at 707-463-4086.
Harlan is described as being a 56-year-old white male adult, standing 6-feet tall and weighing 220 pounds.
Harlan has a shaved head and a tattoo of "Shirley' across the upper front chest area near the neck line. Harlan also has a tattoo on the right side of the neck below
the ear, a tattoo on back of his head and has a prosthetic right leg.
Update, Sat. Sept. 13, 2014: Previously reported missing person, Holly Dickens, (shown in photo) is alive and well. According to Shelter Cove Fire Department, the Humboldt County Sheriff's Office got a call from Holly's mother saying Holly telephoned her when she found out she had been reported missing. The original post on this story appears below.
20 year-old Holly Ann Dickens (shown in photo) was reported as missing yesterday to the Humboldt County Sheriff's Office. Dickens is described as a white female, 20 years old, 5'-6" tall, 120 lbs., with strawberry blond hair and blue eyes. She is traveling in a black, 1992, Toyota, 4 Runner with Washington license plate AEU3042. A similar vehicle is shown in the photo below. If anyone has information about Holly Dickens, please call the Humboldt County Sheriff’s Office at 707-445-7251.
HCSO press release, dated 9/12/14:
The Humboldt County Sheriff’s Office is seeking the public’s assistance with any information about a missing adult reported to this Office. On September 11, 2014 at 7:12 PM, a Deputy received information about a missing person that was believed to be traveling through Humboldt County and possibly in the Shelter Cover area. Holly Ann Dickens (attached picture) left the Washington State area and was going to travel to the San Diego area of California, to stay with her sister. Dickens last called her sister on Monday, September 9, 2014 and reported that she was going to be camping in the Shelter Cove area for the next couple of days. That was the last telephone communications from Dickens, which is out of character. Dickens is traveling in a black, 1992, Toyota, 4 Runner with Washington license plate AEU3042 (attached photo is not the vehicle, but similar to). Dickens is described as a white female, 20 years old, 5-06, 120, strawberry blond hair and blue eyes. If anyone has information about Dickens, please call the Humboldt County Sheriff’s Office at 707-445-7251.
Two victims of an apparent murder in the Fieldbrook area, northeast of Arcata, Calif., have been identified by the Humboldt County Sheriff's Office as Harley Wayne Hammers Jr., a 37 year-old, male and a 37-year-old female, Angel Robin Tully, both from Eureka. The victims were located on the evening of Wednesday, Sept., 3 following a 911 call reporting shots fired at a residence in the 4400 block of Fieldbrook Road, Fieldbrook.
After interviewing witnesses, officers identified an alleged suspect in the case as Jason Michael Arreaga, 29 years old from Lucerne, California (shown in the photo) and broadcast a "be-on-the-lookout" notice for Arreaga's vehicle, a Gold 2001 Buick four door sedan. This vehicle was spotted at 12:30 am this morning, Thurs, Sept 4, in south Eureka. Eureka Police Officers and HC Sheriff's Officers successfully followed and stopped the vehicle on US 101 at Singly Hill off ramp, Loleta. Arreaga was driving the vehicle and was arrested for two counts of homicide. He is currently being held on one million dollars bail. Fieldbrook Road was re-opened to traffic at 11:40 a.m. today. Hear more on the KMUD local news tonight at 6 pm.
HCSO Press Release, dated Thurs, Sept., 4, 2014:
On 09-03-2014, at approximately 5:07 p.m., the Humboldt County Sheriff’s Office received a 911 call regarding shots fired and a deceased female at a residence in the 4400 block of Fieldbrook Road, Fieldbrook. Deputies and medical personnel were dispatched to the scene. While deputies were enroute the Sheriff’s Office received additional calls with the callers saying the female was deceased near a trailer on the property and there was a male yelling for help in the driveway
The first deputy arrived on scene at 5:17 p.m. The deputy immediately learned there were two victims, an adult male, later identified as Harley Wayne Hammers Jr. 37 years old, from Eureka and an adult female, later identified as Angel Robin Tully, 37 years old, from Eureka, both whom had been shot. Hammers was located by the deputy across the street from where the shooting had occurred. Medical personnel treated Hammers for gunshot wound injuries and transported him Mad River Community Hospital where he was pronounced deceased. Tully was declared deceased at the scene.
Sheriff’s Office Detectives responded to the scene, and the California Highway Patrol, and Humboldt County Public Works assisted with closing Fieldbrook Road, from Anker Lane to Wagle Lane, which had become part of the crime scene.
Sheriff’s Deputies and Detectives searched the area for a shooting suspect and spoke with witnesses. Detectives learned during their investigation the suspect was Jason Michael Arreaga, 29 years old from Lucerne, California. Arreaga had been in an argument with the victims. Detectives learned Arreaga was driving a Gold 2001 Buick four door sedan. A be-on-the-lookout was broadcast for the vehicle to law enforcement agencies.
At approximately 12:30 a.m., 09-04-2014, a Eureka Police Officer spotted the Buick driving southbound on US 101 as it was passing through south Eureka. The Eureka Police Officer followed the vehicle until Sheriff’s Deputies arrived and assisted in the traffic stop. The vehicle was stopped on US 101 at Singly Hill off ramp, Loleta. Arreaga was driving the vehicle and Arreaga was arrested for two counts of homicide and was transported to the Humboldt County Correctional Facility where he was booked into jail. He is being held on one million dollars bail.
Detectives are still on scene, and still actively working on the case. They have requested Arreaga’ s photograph be withheld at this time while they continue interviewing eye witnesses.
The Humboldt County Coroner’s Office has scheduled the autopsies to be conducted 9-6-2014.
Additional information may be released at a later time as it becomes available, this is still an active investigation.
Anyone with information for the Sheriff’s Office regarding this case or related criminal activity is encouraged to call the Sheriff’s Office at 707-445-7251 or the Sheriff’s Office Crime Tip line at 707-268-2539.
Special KMUD News programming aired today giving updates on the latest news about the Lodge Lightning Complex, including homeowners reacting to the Lodge Lightning Complex Evacuation Order given last night (Friday, Aug., 8). Use the SoundCloud player below to hear this program.
The following information and maps were supplied by Bob Barsotti, dated Saturday, August 9, 2014 at 9:43 AM:
"The fire has crossed the fire line on Brushy Mountain and has burned approx 200acres on the east side of the line. They are hitting it hard w/ aircraft today, both heli & fixed wing. They have two new heli's here called sky cranes that are dipping at the gel plant set up at Alder Springs Vineyards pond and dumping the retardant on the fires. Today they are focussing on creating a new fire break through the rangeland east of the fire and west of Hwy 101 trying to make a disconnect if the fire heads further east today. The fire has also crossed the Eel at the mouth of 10 Mile canyon and will probably burn up to Camp Seabow today. They are pretty confidant they can stop it there, but they also felt that way yesterday on Brushy Mt. They are also focusing on stopping it from spreading towards Tan Oak Park by using the fixed wing aircraft dropping retardant all along the line there."
"Here are three maps showing the fire perimeter, the air ops, and the section map. I was especially impressed in the briefing of the pilots this AM when Calfire told them that after dipping in the gel plant, if they aren't sent right back for another load they need to go to their clean out dip to clean their tanks and hoses in case their next mission is to the river, as they cannot dip in the river with retardant in their systems. Hat's off to Calfire for their extreme attention to detail in the midst of chaos."
Update: From CalFire, posted at 7:00 AM, Aug. 9, 2014: An Evacuation Order has been issued for the area around the eastern boundary of the Lodge Fire in the following areas: Camp Seabow, Elder Place, Tan Oak Park, Bald Mountain Ranch, Mad Creek, Elk Creek east of Brush Mountain.
According to the update, the Lodge Complex has burned 7100 acres, is 30% contained and has involved 11 injuries with 58 structures threatened.
The CalFire Incident update describes the current situation as:
"The fire continues to burn in heavy timber. Firefighters are challenged by steep, rugged terrain with difficult access. Late yesterday afternoon the fire made significant runs on the eastern portion of the fire. Eight firefighters were injured as the fire crested a portion of Brush Mountain. All eight firefighters were transported to burn centers and treated for burns; they remain in stable condition."
An evacuation shelter has been set up by the American Red Cross at the Leggett School, 1 School Way
Please visit www.wildlandfirersg.org for information on how to prepare for an evacuation.
Community meetings will be held today (Sat., Aug 9), in Leggett and Laytonville. The meeting in Leggett will begin at 1:00PM at Leggett School, 1 School Way. The meeting in Laytonville will begin at 5:00PM at the Harwood Hall, 44400 Willis Ave.
The original post on this announcement appears below.
Update Friday evening, Aug. 8: CalFire has now issued an Evacuation Order for the area around the eastern boundary of the Lodge Complex Fire in the area of Elk Creek east of Brush Mountain.
An “Evacuation Order,” means there is an imminent threat to life and property in the affected areas and people in these areas should leave the affected area immediately.
For information Contact: Lodge Complex Information Line, (626) 622-7927
In a previous Media Advisory this area was described as:
Near Camp Seabow, Bowman Ranch Rd, Peterson and Grubb Creeks as well as residences in the areas of:
- Big Bend - Grizzly Creek
- Cedar Flat - Hermitage
- Cummings/Little Red Mountain - Little Dann Creek
- Dann Valley - Tan Oak Park
Please visit www.wildlandfirersg.org for information on how to prepare for an evacuation.
Additional Lodge Lightning Complex Community Meetings are scheduled for this Saturday, August 9th, in Leggett starting at 1 pm at Redwood Mercantile and in Laytonville at 5 pm held in Harwood Hall.
According to information recieved by KMUD News, Sheriff Allman said his office will issue evacuation warnings before any actual evacuations, and suggested that folks make sure they're registered in the county's Reverse 911 system in case evacuation notices are needed.
To register for Reverse 911, go to the website: https://public.coderedweb.com/CNE/DA8386D59377 or call the sheriff’s office for help. 707-463-4411
The following media advisory was issued by CalFire, Friday August 8:
Subject: Evacuation Warning issued for the area around the eastern boundary of the Lodge Complex Fire.
Contact: Lodge Complex Information Line, (626) 622-7927
What: An Evacuation Warning has been issued for the area around the eastern boundary of the Lodge Fire near Camp Seabow, Bowman Ranch Rd, Peterson and Grubb Creeks as well as residences in the areas of:
- Big Bend - Grizzly Creek
- Cedar Flat - Hermitage
- Cummings / Little Red Mountain - Little Dann Creek
- Dann Valley - Tan Oak Park
An, “Evacuation Warning,” means there is a potential threat to life and property in the affected areas. Individuals living in these areas should have a plan and be prepared to leave.
According to KMUD News Friday, July 8, 2014 at 2:30 pm -see updated information at the bottom of this post:
Calfire says the Lodge Lightning Complex Fire burning between Leggett and Laytonville is burning 5,400 acres.
30 bulldozers are working to construct the containment line around the fire, which is 30% complete so far.
Fire activity increased yesterday as the eastern flank of the fire pushed to the south. The fire crossed the Eel River in two areas and continues to grow to the east. Structure defense preparation continues near populated areas and firefighting personnel continue to make progress constructing fire line across the northern and southern boundaries of the fire.
35 structures threatened, but Sheriff Allman said there are NO immediate plans for evacuation. The Sheriff and all firefighting personnel encouraged local residents to register with Reverse 911, the system used to notify homeowners of an evacuation.
Sheriff Allman said his office will issue evacuation warnings before any actual evacuations, and suggested folks make sure they're registered in the county's Reverse 911 system in case evacuation notices are needed.
To register for Reverse 911, go to the website …
or call the sheriff’s office for help. 707-463-4085
151 fire engines working the Lodge Lightning Complex Fire. And, Calfire has 15 helicopters working the blaze.
Thousands of acres are on fire in the Klamath National Forest.
The lightning-caused Beaver Fire started July 30th. It is located on the Klamath National Forest near Beaver Creek Road, north of Highway 96 near the Klamath River, in Siskiyou County.
The fire grew again, 17,142 acres are on fire and 20% contained.
A community meeting has been scheduled for Friday, August 8th at 7:00PM at the Klamath River Community Hall.
Resources will continue to evaluate structure threats south of Highway 96 and the Klamath River. Currently, Highway 96 is open to local traffic only.
The advisory evacuation issued by the Siskiyou County Sheriff’s Office has expanded to include the area between Lumgrey Creek to the Doggett Creek. Evacuees can utilize the Red Cross Shelter at the Jackson Street Elementary School at 405 Jackson Street in Yreka
The July Complex fires are also burning in the Klamath National Forest.
The Complex is burning 10,081 acres.
The Siskiyou County Sheriff’s Office has issued a Mandatory Evacuation for the residents of Rainbow Mine, Music Creek, and South Russian Creek and areas. These notices are for all residents east of Sawyers Bar on the 40N54 Road.
The Siskiyou County Sheriff’s Office Evacuation Advisory for residents of Quartz Valley and Mugginsville remains in effect. The notice is for all residents along Quartz Valley Road between Scott River Road and Oro Fino Road.
There is a fire behavior advisory for record low fuel moistures in both live and dead fuels. Coupled with clearing skys and good ventilation, firefighters expect increased fire behavior. Predictive models show a potential for rapid growth of the Log and Whites fires.
Are You Ready for Wildfire? For a checklist of things to do if you are in an advisory area, please see CAL FIRE’s site: http://www.readyforwildfire.org/getting_set
For information on smoke conditions and health effects, visit Siskiyou County Pollution Control District (http://tinyurl.com/ljzak8a), the National Interagency Real-Time Smoke Monitoring Network (http://app.airsis.com/usfs/fleet.aspx) or the North Coast Unified Air Quality Management District (http://ncuaqmd.org/).Residents are encouraged to visit the “Protect Yourself from Smoke” website for smoke protection information http://www.cdc.gov/Features/Wildfires/.
INFORMATION FOR PEOPLE LIVING NEAR A FIRE ZONE:
During an evacuation advisory you should begin preparing for a potential evacuation order. Individuals requiring more time to evacuate should consider leaving now. You should also consider removing large animals and large personal items such as motor homes, boats, and heavy equipment.
Prepare Now For Possible Future Evacuations
• Pre-plan. Know what valuables you can remove quickly and take with you. Plan to take medicines and first aid kit; flashlight, radio and batteries; important papers and cash; clothes, bedding, food.
• Find out where you are to go if/when you evacuate and how to get there. Have more than one route.
• Close up the house. Close all windows and doors. Cover all vents if you have time.
• Close heavy drapes and blinds. Remove flimsy curtains and move furniture away from windows.
• Put flammable lawn furniture in the house or garage.
• Turn off the gas or propane. Leave electricity on.
• If you have to leave a vehicle, leave it pointed out with the keys in the ignition.
• Take your small pets with you. Don’t forget pet food. If you have livestock in a cleared pasture, and have not had time to evacuate them, leave them alone. If not in a cleared area, open the gates.
• Keep your driveway clear for fire equipment.
• Leave a note indicating where you went and a phone number where you can be reached.
• Locate and mark hazardous materials, septic tanks, water sources, etc.
• Clean up area around your house.
• It is recommended that potential evacuees confirm that they have registered their phone numbers in the reverse 9-1-1 (“CODE RED”) system, which will ensure evacuation-related advisories will be provided via email or phone.
The link to the sign up page is: https://cne.coderedweb.com/Default.aspx?groupid=QwwIA%2BxgIwxOjZE7HCORww%3D%3D
Special Tips for Disabled and Elderly Persons
• Keep your special medications, with duplicate prescriptions, close by and in a safe place where they can be easily reached. These should be ready to be taken with you in case of evacuation. If required, keep extra bladder bags, catheters and sanitary aids near your medication. A bag, into which you can scoop these items quickly, is helpful.
• Keep near you at all times any auxiliary devices you need to aid in your mobility, for example, a walker, crutches, cane, etc.
• Have extra batteries if you use an electric wheelchair.
• Have a notebook and pencils available in several locations if you have difficulty in communicating. Written messages will be invaluable to anyone assisting you.
• Do not forget pet food, harness and equipment if you have a seeing-eye or hearing dog.
Information from Bob Barsotti as of 4:30 pm Friday July 8, 2014:
"Here are todays maps, the top one being the fire divisions and the bottom one being the air ops map. It looks like they've been backfiring on the east line on Brushy Mountain this afternoon. We have the large C-130, maybe 2, dropping loads of retardant as well as a number of new larger helicopters flying overhead. I'm about 4 miles from the southeast edge of the fire and they are worried about it heading up 10 Mile Creek canyon today. The big push seems to be on the eastern edge on Brushy Mountain where the fire crossed the Eel River in three places by this morning. I'm told they had hose and water tanks all along that edge of the fire this AM so they are ready for it coming that way."